Punk Fashion

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Rob's bastardization of his Andy Gibb t-shirt is such a great example of punk fashion. Like the lines between band member and audience were blurred, so were the lines between fashion and anti-fashion. Don't buy it...make it.

Fashion fetishes, disasters,...so what about your style?

Here's one of my lamest ones:
I had some stuff written in marker on the back of a white button down shirt. One day, I decided I wanted to bleach out the writing before wearing the shirt that night. So I poured bleach into the shirt, scrubbed at it with a brush. Being a latch-key kid that missed home economics class, I didn't understand the formiddable power of Clorox. I swear I rinsed it thoroughly! But by late that night, the back of my shirt had dissolved into nothingness. Just the front was left some chemical burned fabric around the edges...backless by accident.
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  • Re: Punk Fashion

    Mon, May 15, 2006 - 9:24 AM
    My first pair of "punk" pants were bright yellow painter's pants. I took a marker and a stencil kit and thoughtlessly wrote 'FORBOYSONLY" down the leg in big, splotchy black letters. They were floods, so they had to be tucked into my cowboy boots.

    I wore duct taped bell bottoms and a buttoned up sear sucker polka dot shirt to the MAB the first time I went. I felt really punk, and excited. But when I got there I understood how wrong I'd been.

    The one serious fashion regret I have is having Mark Devito paint the zombie from Iron maiden on the back of my red and black motorcycle jacket. I was at the height of my "even punk rock sucks" stage, wearing Motohead t-shirts, and when people asked me why my answer was "Because they SUCK!" Following in that tradition I paid good money to have MArc paint this heavy metal dude on the back of my jacket. I was immediately sorry, and promptly covered the back up with a denim vest, and never took it off again.
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      Tue, May 16, 2006 - 9:01 AM
      Nina sent a picture of me wearing a blue sweatshirt with the arms cut off and I had written "Raw Mod" (in White Out no less)....what was that all about? And I had a "M" bleached in the back of my head and then colored with Black Cherry Cellophane (a great discovery)....
      Please don't mistake this for vanity...I was terribly insecure!! And I had no money...so in place of cool black leather boots...I wore black galoshes with old lady pumps inside that I found at a thrift store....
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        Tue, May 16, 2006 - 9:16 AM
        Thrift Town was the greatest source of clothing for me.

        My favorite shirt that I probably wore too much was an Evel Knievel tshirt commemorating his failure to jump the snake river canyon. It was a little bit sparkly and had enough holes in the wrong places.

        Years later I actually met him at an art opening in Florida and wished I still had my favorite shirt.

        I recently re-read Jim Jocoy's book of photographs from SF and LA clubs. I was amazed to see how individual and totally non-stereotypical all of the fashion was. I wish I knew who was who. Just curious. Anyone know that book? Anyone in it?
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          Tue, May 16, 2006 - 10:27 AM
          we used to go to thrift stores in petaluma wearing one outfit... and leave wearing something different......

          went through an old man shoes craze... poor old man... pretty small feet!!
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          Wed, May 17, 2006 - 8:58 AM
          I think my favorite Punk attire was my first jacket I took to shows. Black sports coat with very thin lapels I got at the Salvation Army. I then painstkingly cut open all the seams and then safety pinned it back together with what must have been thousands of safety pins. I also put a row of safety pins up each lapel, I had only one button on it and that was a black and white Mutants button. I would where whatever cheap tacky sunglasses I ran across. usually wore wither white painters pants covered with paint or torn jeans or really loud poluester pants. Either combat boots or converse allstars completed the ensamble. That jacket was later confiscated by the Navy when I tryed to leave the ship wearing it, I was going to a punk club in San Diego.......
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            Wed, May 17, 2006 - 11:13 AM
            Mike, I think Yohji Yamamoto must have been stalking you, or one of the other Japanese designers I love, because I have in my folder where I keep images of clothes I dream of owning a picture of a beautiful black jacket with hundreds of safety pins decorating it.

            I so remember how swiftly you saw punk fashion appearing in Vogue (I think I remember seeing some really edgy work as early as 1980, maybe earlier in Vogue), for thousands of dollars a throw, doing what some of y'all were doing just for much bigger bucks and with better fabric (in some cases).
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              Thu, June 29, 2006 - 5:48 AM
              I own a 1978 Vogue mag with punk fashion by Zandra Rhodes, a little ripped up black dress with chains and safety pins. When I was between 8 & 10 years old, my big sister went off to fashion school in LA with 2 friends from SF. One of her roomates looked like David Bowie Diamond Dogs era with burgundy red spiky hair. The other went on to design for Alice Cooper and Shandi, the new wave singer and worked with Bob Mackie, Cher's designer. They used to go to the Whiskey and the Caberet alot. Following in the footsteps of my mom and sis, I decided I wanted to design as well. My drawings from 1977-9 have alot of punk inspired stuff. My line was called "Chaotic Apparel". I wanted to bring back the colors Biba cosmetics of London had for the glitter rockers back in the mid 70s--all purple and black and neon blue. Still have my old drawings.

              All that ended when I entered junior high. The lily white privileged atmosphere tends to radicalize people. I decided to embrace my daddy's side of the family by reading alot of Black Panther and Malcolm X literature and save the world. Hence the social work thing.

              Now my 11 year old neice wears black nail polish, Chuck Taylors and wants to be a designer. But there ain't no fucking way she's inheriting my leather jacket, which I've had since I was 14 and, when I'm intermittantly skinny, can still wear. Too much blood, sweat, tears and vomit went into that jacket. No more walking around with my old lettering on it though--used to say "TERRORIST' on the back back in the day.
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                Thu, June 29, 2006 - 6:11 AM
                I gotta say...I STILL love the old school look---it still makes my heart skip a beat and stops my breath. I think it looks...absolutely beautiful in its own peculiar way.

                Black leather, shaved heads on guys and gals, black leather, big fucking mohawks, ripped t-shirts, black leather, spikey hair, black leather, outrageous makeup, black leather, combat boots, black leather, steel toes, black leather, spikes, rubber, torn white oversized men's shirts, black leather, pendletons, latex, Chuck Taylors, skinny black pants, black leather, skinny blazers, brightly colored hair, black leather, wrap around glasses, bondage pants, black leather, creepers, torn Levis, face jewelry, black leather, incorporation of graffitti, toys, camouflage, military gear, black leather...and the humor and loving care that went into it all.


                • Re: Punk Fashion

                  Thu, June 29, 2006 - 6:18 AM
                  OK just to beat a dead horse.

                  Best punk halloween costumes??? Punx were always so creative. The most memorable punk halloween costumes to me were:

                  1) a group of girls dressed as the Blue Meanies on Broadway (anybody know who they were? 1983 or 4-ish)
                  2) a group of guys dressed as Droogies at one of Cyndie's Petaluma Halloween parties (1983-ish)
                  3) a group of guys dressed as camouflage painted Vietnam era soldiers ala Apocalypse Now at the Elite
                  Club (1981)
                  4) chick dressed as Dianne Feinstein at Rat's Palace Halloween 1980.
                  Anybody else?
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    Wed, May 17, 2006 - 9:30 AM
    Let's not forget the pencil stick ubiquitous black pants...that were sown so tight that it took me 20 minutes to get them on...and the rough part was not over my ass (I was terribly thin back then...gee I wonder why)...but over my feet and ankles...I had to hold them from a 90 degree angle to a completely straight line...
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    Wed, May 17, 2006 - 10:19 AM
    LOL...fashion fetish:

    Ever since hanging out with cute punk/skaters during teenage years, I've had a thing for guys in Converse Allstars. High-tops, not low-tops. And the more b-ball style off-white, over black. You can't beat the classic cool of a pair of Chuck Taylor's!
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      Wed, May 17, 2006 - 10:37 AM
      Loved the skater boys...with their holy torn jeans and plaid shirts around their waists and their naked chests for all to see...and their wicked grins...I can't believe you were checking out the shoes.....! ah days gone by.....
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      Wed, May 17, 2006 - 6:25 PM
      hey I still wear Converse Allstars low tops
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        Wed, May 17, 2006 - 7:39 PM
        Yeah, Punk fucking fashion:

        You cut your hair, I grow mine out. You wear tight inky black pants and leather jackets, I wear high end Italian suits and a wife beater tank top. Blah, blah, blah....I-Tal-E-An suits rule. Blah fucking blah. Hello Kitty slippers rule! Armani rules.....
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          Wed, May 17, 2006 - 9:52 PM
          Johnny...I'm all over the sleazy suit with the wife-beater style. But good gawd, I'm having a hard time picturing you with stylin' suit AND the Hell(o) Kitty slippers. Please tell me those are Jennifer's, and not yours.
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            Thu, May 18, 2006 - 9:24 AM
            The look is hot.................. Pink and black leopard Hello kitty slippers.. a white wife beater ... omg... very hot..... wow..... uhhh huhhhhhhhhhhhhh ; )>
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        Wed, May 17, 2006 - 7:41 PM
        ok.... i'm going to admit something here.....
        you all might just take whats left of my old fart punk membership away....


        i have desinger chucks right now.......
        they were on the sale rack at Macy's.... they're brown & kinda velvety looking... called jack purcells..(no clue?)

        anyway... i LOVE them.... and i will wear them till they fall apart!!
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          Wed, May 17, 2006 - 7:43 PM
          oh Johnny....
          you & Nick Cave have the same stylist.....

          i remember your McDonalds coke spoon earring.......
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            Wed, May 17, 2006 - 8:03 PM
            Luckily in my punk fasion heigh day I was assistant manager at a thrift store in Mountain View,and when I wasn't asleep on someones couch I would crash at the store,and change my clothes off the rack.I would have to set up about 5 or 6 of the alarm clocks we had on sale to make sure at least one would go off at the right time,then I would get out by 7 am,ride the 22 to eastridge mall,catching more sleep with a walkman blasting punk in my head,get something to eat,and catch the ride back and more sleep...which would get me back to the store in time for my shift at 11,but more than once I awoke to the manager standing over me telling me I wasn't supposed to be sleeping there.

            Anyhow,I favored the fuzzy garish mohair orange and green sweaters with a leather jacket I had torn the sleeves off of thrown over the top,and those nifty towncraft 60s short sleeve button up shirts with ugly paisley and such patterns,and my favorite pair of pants of that period was a pair of sta prest levi slack type pants,they were pegged and fit snug all the way up the leg,and when I washed them(which as you can imagine wasn't daily)the perma press crease down the front of the leg would reapear.I also had a great collection of boots and shoes I scored there,I kept a big box of clothing in the loft over the office for the stuff I really liked,the other stuff I tired of I would put back at some point.My other accesory was a multitude of black and red cat collars that seemed to get donated a lot on each wrist.

            To supplement my income I would snag any of the art deco or antique looking stuff I had an eye for a few doors down to the little antique shop and sell it.I would also come across such rarities as first issue John Lennon poetry books(which I sold to a girl who then defaced them by writing her name in ball point on the inside covers)and 13th floor elevator albums and such.

            Those were some good times.
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        Wed, May 17, 2006 - 9:56 PM
        Nina, I didn't say low-tops weren't cool. I'm sure you look damn fine!
        They just don't strike that fetish note for me.
        But I'm probably not your type anyways.

        Tho' I do remember you and Maude being quite the hot-chick duo!
        • Re: Punk Fashion

          Thu, May 18, 2006 - 8:35 AM
          I didn't think you were saying they weren't cool. I was more commenting that some of us still wear some of the same things we did back then cool or otherwise.....
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            Thu, May 18, 2006 - 8:53 AM
            My black Chuck high tops looked so painfully new for so long that I stopped wearing them and when I moved to L.A. somehow left them in the back of the car for ages. One day I noticed that the blinding L.A. sunshine had bleached them to a marvelous vintage grey appearance. Sigh. Wish I had worked that out while in Berkeley.
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          Thu, May 18, 2006 - 10:17 AM
          Thanks Wildsoul....never thought myself to be a hot-chick....
          And what about the makeup?....Gawd it was fun to put on all that face paint...would take me at least an hour or so...Dark purples and blues and greens...and black lipstick...and liner...and pale faces....with dark dark blush...making face all the more angular....
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            Thu, May 18, 2006 - 11:00 AM
            Maude wrote: "
            And what about the makeup?....Gawd it was fun to put on all that face paint...would take me at least an hour or so...Dark purples and blues and greens...and black lipstick...and liner...and pale faces....with dark dark blush...making face all the more angular.... "

            Yeah, it was fun! Post-punk, I went to beauty school and became a makeup artist for a time.
            Jellin was a hairdresser.
            I think a lot of punks went into the beauty biz, since we had learned how to be so creative that way. Of course many more became musicians and other types of artists.

            It's old hat now, but punk was quite a breakthrough in artistic terms. Radical really.
            • Re: Punk Fashion

              Thu, May 18, 2006 - 2:36 PM
              I had the corner of a twenty dollar bill (the 20 numeral, specifically) that I'd laminated with layers of scotch tape and safety-pinned to the lapel of my army jacket. Also favorite and memorable were a pair of beatle boots I kept resoling with pieces of suede I would glue onto the bottom with glue that tended to melt in the rain. And I still have my old steeltoes. I almost wore them to the fillmore reunion but totally pictured myself eating it on the fillmore's steep stairs in the completely worn-off heels. Plus, those things are heavy and stiff. I don't know how I endured them then but they sure looked cool. I also still have a heavy pair of old-man's black wingtips that I can't bear to get rid of. Seems most fashion, even anti-fashion can be downright uncomfortable.
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                Thu, May 18, 2006 - 4:25 PM
                YAY!
                for punk rock make up!!!

                I would wear really dark red eye shadow on one eye... and really dark blue/gray on the other.. and painted a 1/4 note by my eye, in eyeliner...
                the 7-11 clerks in Petaluma would never card me.... cause i was a SCARY looking 16 year old.
                • Re: Punk Fashion

                  Thu, June 29, 2006 - 5:35 AM
                  Jellin,

                  Yeah, you were way scary as a 16 year old. I remember your first day at Sinaloa Jr.High with your Magenta hair, Rocky Horror makeup and spike heeled black boots and buttons. All the kids thought you were a teacher. Nobody our age at that school had the balls to looka like that!

                  I'll also never forget how liberating it was to cut all my hair off. As the song goes--gonna shave my head and clear my mind...
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                    Thu, June 29, 2006 - 10:47 AM
                    hey Juneko!
                    I was 15 then?? and many of the students thought I was a nark!!! hahahaha! until i tried to sell them pot! or pulled my switch blade on them ....
                    I met both you and Cheryl from the stuff i had written on my binder... you in PE class..
                    and Cheryl kinda across from school.. my binder was on the ground.. I think there was a fight going on or something.. and besides my Iggy is God comment... I had "punk forever"
                    with a drawing of a safety pin, Cheryl commented on that....
                    then I sold her some pot!
                    yes I had a bazzillion Rocky buttons and drew all over my high tops (I wore NBAs).. and carried my tape player with The Ramones blaring.....
                    by the time I was 16 I was back in Luma Land at Petaluma High ~ still scary to me!
                    thats when i cut my long permed, henna red, Magenta hair off!! and Dyed it black ..
                    i wasn't able to color it REALLY funny colors till I started beauty school.. 83.
                    I just stopped that after I hit 40 and decided on my career change...
                    funny when I move to a place where you can look like any kind of freak you want to be... I decide i don't want to look like that anymore... ehhh whatever!
                    I do still like to wear ripped up t-shirts and get out of my nice car that says REALTOR on the plate holder ;-)
                    so when are we gonna see you??? BEE-AA-TCH???
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                      Thu, June 29, 2006 - 11:34 AM
                      Hey Guys - Jellin I remember when I first heard about you (I think I had bumped up to High School by then) the word was that some chick with big bright red hair had started a riot at school and gotten kicked out. You were legendary!
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                      Thu, June 29, 2006 - 12:03 PM
                      Jellin wrote: "and Cheryl kinda across from school.. my binder was on the ground.. I think there was a fight going on or something.. and besides my Iggy is God comment... I had "punk forever"
                      with a drawing of a safety pin, Cheryl commented on that....
                      then I sold her some pot! "

                      That is funny! I don't remember buying weed from you, but I do remember that place across the street from school where the stoner kids were. I think all 3 of us were in the same PE class. At least I remember first seeing you in the locker rooms...trying to figure out if you were sub-teacher or a student. It was the heavy eye-makeup that made it hard to tell.
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                        Thu, June 29, 2006 - 8:40 PM
                        ahhhhhhh the "riot"......... I didn't get kicked out over that... but I did start it.. it actually started in PE class... remember we all had to sit on little numbers for roll call???
                        some chick was pointing to her ski jacket with yellow stripes and said she was gonna dye her hair that color next..... so as we were all walking into the auditorium... i grabbed the girl by the collar and yelled at her... then some friend of my cousin's, that was friends with the Ben Boys ( a "gang" of thugs in Novato).... were supposed to show up for some silly fight that never even happened... but boy the cops were all over the place and a couple hundred students were hangin around.... we drove through it in Lee Ann's fiat laughin' & getting stoned!!
                        silly ol Novato cops.......
                        but yes Cheryl you bought pot from me pretty much when we met.. I did have to get it.. rocka billy Johnnie B. brought it to me at my dad's through the window...
                        what weird shit I remember....
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                          Thu, June 29, 2006 - 10:27 PM
                          but you do remember me doing speed with you the first time *nice*
                          i just told somebody about that & they said the same freakin thing about me...... man ......*my bad*
              • Re: Punk Fashion

                Mon, May 22, 2006 - 4:58 AM
                "Plus, those things are heavy and stiff. I don't know how I endured them then ..." i had many pairs of boots like that. i think my feet are still messed up. all in the name of fashion.
                • Re: Punk Fashion

                  Mon, May 22, 2006 - 1:24 PM
                  I still have my late sixties cheetah with the nehru collar, though many of the safety pins that hold the ripped seams together have rusted over the years.

                  Although I mostly now wear the a-little-too-tight Alfani suits I found in a bag outside the AA Centro de Grupo Alcoholicos something on Andover St. back in February I will sometimes pull out my torn and faded Nirvana T-shirt and don it with a short black skirt, black stockings and big black boots that add at least six inches to my height. I figure it's my "equivalent" for the twenty-first century.
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    Sat, August 26, 2006 - 2:11 AM
    I still have the Bad Brains shirt I bought at Big Fun - it's a Michael Gervin... it's weathered beautifully. And I still have the leather pants I had when I was 15, and they fit up until I had a kid... I made a punk evening gown by safety pinning up a black velvet prom dress. Anyone else get safety pin injuries from their clothes? I got some nasty pokes from pegging my pants with pins.

    I never really stopped wearing punk clothes - I got my first pair of bondage pants in 1994 and still have 6 pairs. My kid drapes the straps around him like a stole and struts around. I really love some of the new punk clothes - even though they are heinously expensive. I got a Buddhist Punk leather jacket on Ebay for a hudred bucks (new it would have been $600) - it has itty bitty skulls sewn all over the lapels. I also love Punk Royal from Denmark, and Religion from the UK. Really great clothes.

    The stupidest thing I've seen is a sex pistols t-shirt completely encrusted in rhinestones... it was over $200 - for a t-shirt!

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